1 50 5 https://omeka-test.library.appstate.edu/files/original/7bfe768740570b7362804ca24404718f.pdf 049b349af65133fac2a31f7e2871a6d8 PDF Text Text An interview wi t h Robert Proffit by Joseph Skelton and Deloris Proffit, on October 3, 1980. The interview was conducted at his home. Mr. Proffit: John Green was probably the first person entering the land we know as Meat Camp now. This entry was in 1788 and the orginial deeds which started at the mouth of Howard ~ s c reek to the New river and it comes up to the lower end of Meat Camp. The line runs through below where Earl Green lives now, goes pretty well east and wes t across there. And the Ragan property joined that. I don ~ t have an} P·IIOO f he re r- on l the "first one, just ex actly where he lived. I don ~ t think Gre en lived in Meat Camp valley He lived back on the other side where Forrest (G r een) lives in that hollow. But still the property comes in Heat CAmp. Then the Ragan land begin with that line and it run thr~ ugh the upper end of the Wilson property where Darrell Green owns now, and across on each side. And it will cover the area you are interested in probably alot more. Now Peter Ragan lived there somewhere, on the land that he entered in the 1780's 90 ~ s. He had a son named James who inherited all of it as far as I know. I don~t have the re cords on it, It wa s probably entered but it is certain he lived in the country at least before 1790 and its certain that James Ragan owned the property. Now from there on the greater partc of the rest of Meat Camp was entered by David Miller. There',s tracts here and there that he missed for sorfie reason. It mifht have been one or two entries that he didn ! t have, I mean that someone else had got in--while he was entering it. And do you want to take in the flat woods and Longhope on this? Interviewer: Yes. Mr. Pro f fit: Well it was up-- James Brown, I think, a Brown anyway entered the flat woods that was in the 1780 ~ s. Henry Harrison ?fains lived on LOng hope, he moved there in 1788. And xcept for that I th i nk David Miller owned practically all the rest of Meat Camp. He entered it in the period a little after 1800 to maybe 1830 or so. And some of it may have been entered in his children ~ s names. They inherited all of it, or all of it he didn ~ t s e ll. Now let !s see you can f lip that off a minute i f you want t o . Now the Ragan ~ s f amily-- I guess Ralph still owns part of that place over there where Bud lives. Floyd Norris if he hadn , t sold it owns a patch in there. His mother was one of them. The rest of it has all been. sold. It reached from well at least from the top of Chestnut Grove hill to Riddle's fork. David Miller owned land on Riddle's fork too. He had one of the fir s t entries ever made but it was over at Green Va lley school house- That's Just about where his house was. He owned from there way back over on the big Hill side that was entered by h~ s daddv . And after he married he started enteru.3 on the creek here. I'll get this burned down a little and we'll go on but before we turn it on (in reference to his pipe). I can give you a list of several people that I've found that lived here. And I don't know that I've got them all. Do you want a description of who lived there at this time on the place and things like that now will that help ~ you? �2 Interviewer: Yes, it sure will. Mr. Proffit: Now Joseph Miller was one of the earliest settlers above the Greens and Ragans. He settled on this place here about 1834 I'd say. He was married in 1834 and probably lived here then. And his land went from I couldn't tell you exactly, but it took in over the top of this ridge over here and over nearly to Riddle's Fork and it went up the creek to about where Will Winebar?er lived or a little above there. And the next one William C. Miller moved to Upper Meat Camp about 1835. He wasn't related to these. His land joined the land Henry Proffit owns now and Flo Proffit owns. It went up somewhere near the Pottertown Gap on the right and went back down toward Zionville on the other side. And he bougnt some of it from David Miller and I think he entered some. And his house was where Lark's family lives now. Levi Wilson lived on the other side of the creek where Gladys Moretz lives. He owned a lot more land than sne owns but his house was somewhere in that bottom, and he lived there from maybe 1835-40 on to the late 50's, he moved to that section in 1839 or 40. He moved into the country in 39 he may of moved there directly or he could ~ have lived somewhere else awhile but he was there probably by 1840, that's the place they call the Tate place now. Tom Davis moved from Holdman's Ford in Wilkes County to what they call the Davis place now. Jack Bryan owns it. You know where it is it's up over the Ridge. And Joha Proffit moved from Holdman's Ford in 1841. He built just out to the right of where Henry Winebarger lives. lie had a mill down on the creek just below Proffit's Grove church. I Can remember when you could see the timbers where the water wheel ~as mounted. Teey are gone no · but --they was logs in the creek back 40 years ago. And this was evidently land that David Miller1 ·m~ssed. The Proffit boys entered it I think. And then David Miller moved from Riddle's Fork up on Meat Camp about 1844. !le lived in an old house do~m just in front of where Roby Wineba~ger lives in that bottom. Jake Winebarger settled here in about 1848. He built his first house just behind where Earl Bryan's house is in that little bottom. Then latter on he built down where Harvey Trivette's house is. You can't remember the old house can yo81 It was a log house. Interviewer: No Mr. Proffit: Well Harvey tore it down and built that house thats there now on the same spot. And he built it in the late 1860's. Now this Winebarger was a millwright, Carpenter, and cabinet maker; he built yha~ orginal mill for John Proffit up on b~e creek before th was married. And he built the Winebarger milJ l Rt t er on. Of course the orginal has been gone a long time this is, , I think, ~ the fourth mill now. And Levi Blackburn moved from down on New river to Meat Camp in 1839. He bought land from Joseph Miller there and he lived on up the hollar above where Richard Greens family lives. He owned that place too. Now he was a Methodist minister and he started the Hopewell church about 1850. The orginial building stood just below the old cemetary down on a little knoll. Latter on they built another one just to the right of the old cemetary above where the road is now. Around 1900 they built the new building over on top of the ridge, where it is, of course its been remodelled and its been moved a little. It blowed off the pillars in 1905 and they had to do something so they pulled it on up on top of the ridge, it was down �3 on this side a little. And they turned it around to face Riddle's Fork. And there was a man named William Tridy that lived on the upper end of the creek on 1850 . He was listed in the 1850 census. He evidently wasn't there so long . There's a place still called the Tridy cabin field, I think Carl Moretz ' s family o~'lls it now, Some of the Moretz ' s. Corning back down Jerry Ellison moved in th the iandr that Clyde Winebarger and Herman Bryan owns now and that was in the 1840's. He married one of the David Miller daughters. This was iand that she recieved as her inheritance from the orginial Miller entries. Efird Miller was one of David ' s sons . He lived on the place that _' Bernard Hodgeson owns now. The Dayton Winebarger place was part of it to. And he probably moved there in the 1840 ' s. He married one of John Woodring ' s daughters and she died and then he didn't marry again up until 1850's. But, I imagine, he probably built there when he first married. John Woodring settled on what we call the Woodring Hollar somewhere in that section about 1839-or-40. Jesse Vannoy moved here from Wilkes in 1850. He owned the place now where Dayton Winebarger lives where Willy Proffit lived. Cristian Lewis married another one of the Miller girls . He moved to this over here where R. 0. Mains owns and the Claude Norris family and probably more but anyhow it covered that . I'm not certain where there was any other outside settlers before that time or not there could have been of course . Now after 1850 most of the new homes in M eQt Camp was set. up by families; children that was r raised here. James Ragan had three sons. John built his house a little , above where Bud:s house is now . Up in that hollar. Calvin built down on the place where Earl Green owns--no I'm wrong there - J . B. Green owns . He built a house just down below where J. B. ' s house is . And Richard built over here where Austin South lives the old house was down in that little hollar just the other side of Austin's house. And on the head of the creek William Proffit built on the land where Claude lived . His house was just above where Claude's barn is out on that little fidge. John Bryan built up in the hollar where Herman lives. Oan Johnson bought the place and lived in the s ame ~ house that John built for years and then he tore it down. Jonathan Miller moved out :Ln the place where Roy Shipley lives now. The house was, I think, a h below or maybe behind the Shipley house. And he may have owned the Todd place too, I don ' t know for certain about that . James Proffit built about where Ralph Moretz's house is now maybe a little below it . John Proffit Jr . built over on t he other side abo ut where Jack Bryan ' s barn is. Austin Miller built pretty close to where Ann Miller's house is or Albert's . John Moretz built on up where Gene lived . And Edmund Blackburn built over across the hill here in this hollar, I don ' t know what it ' s called. But anyhow it was on land that Henry Proffit owned its beens9ld to some bunch of developers now. But it was between the top of the ridge up here and where Richard Green lived . Hopewell Methodist church seemed to have been the first one on this Meat Camp section. It was determined 1850. Levi Blackburn moved in 1839 and they probably had serv~ c es in homes for awh i le but as far as I know they didn ' t organize a church until about 1850 possi~ly a little before of after . I ·-believe I already described where the church stood. The next one was the Meat Camp church. It was established July 6, 1851. And it was a pretty strong congregat ~ on, not so strong when it was set up but it was a fast growing congregation . The orginial meeting house there stood in the little bottom down below where the church house is now . It belongs to Gladys Gragg's . �4 Between 194 and the old cemetary. And I don't know just when the new house was built but probably 40 to 50 years af ter that . And that ' s the only churches I know of on Meat Camp before the Civil war . What I've heard told of, I've a book on Stoneman's raid and ed on Meat CAmp at the time. you would just be things that Interviewer: got a little . The Van Noppen waman she wrote there was a few references to things that happenBut I Can't seperate that. What I can tell I've heard people tell. Well. Mr. Proffit: Well in the war then first calls evidently was for volinteers they had a conscription too. But they was people volinteered that wouldn't have been conscripted, to old or physically probably wouldn ' t have passed . And theymay habe been some I don ' t have. I know some that would have been consideres, Possibly from Meat Camp, But still they are outside a little of the scope that we are covering here. I ' ll give you the names of the people I've found that went into the confedrency service from Meat Camp proper. That was John Blackburn, John Bryan, Elbert Davis, Albert D~vis, Harvey Davis, Thomas Davis Jr., William S. Davis, Richard Green, Alferd Miller, David Miller, Edmund Miller, Elferd Miller, Franklin Miller, John Miller, LOzeno Miller, John Moretz, David Proffit, Jesse Proffit, Thomas Proffit William Proffit, Marcus Woodring, Rufus Woodring, Now out of these Thomas Davis Jr . , Richard Green, David Miller, Edmund Miller, John Miller, David Proffit, Jesse Proffit, and Thomas Proffit all died in the service . There was a time went the war was going on there was raids through the country mostly by outlaws. Stoneman's raid was the only one I know of that was offical. But at times there was bands that would come through and rob the people and go on. There ' s one story of some that went to Jacob Winebarger's and took his horse. They went to William Miller ' s and swapped with him . Left an old pug that looked like it was dead on it's feet . After the war and the horse was feed up it turned out to be a good animal. And I ' ve heard them tell my great-grandmother lived at the Shipley place, it was the Jon a th an Miller place then, he was her uncle . Ane she brought some corn over to tne m il ~l that John Proffit had on the creek and wheb she started back to get her mill she noticed some people coming through the gap of the mountain on horses and she tried to get to the mill before they did, but she'd .; ust got her mill and started back when thay rode up and they took the mill hwa¥ I ~rom her. It was the last she had, and she had to go ovee to Trade over in tenn . to get some more . And another time they had some maple sugarburied . They'd made it and got afraid someone would come in and take it so they buried it in the woods . It started raining and after a few days of fain they got afraid that would ruin it, and went and took it up and that night a bunch come and took it away from them . They was other < <r· things. Out of all this bunch of soldiers Elfird Miller deserted. He ' s the only one I know of. He got back home and layed out in the mountains till the war was over. 1 Interviewer: Is that--- Were roost of the men you mentioned were they confederate? Mr. Proffit: All confederate . �5 Interviewer: soldiers? ..'Were most of the rad.eds that went on here donel by the northern Mr. Proffit : Well I suspect mostly it was just what you might call the trash of the country . Deserters and people who layed out to keep from having to serve and maybe it could have been some sympathers with the northern cause. Interviewer: Yeah . I know I was just wandering because of how bad some of the raids where by northern soldiers further down south. I didn't know i f maybe it might have been some of them . Mr . Proffit: Now they was a trail through in the Tenn. Beach creeR c0.yntry . That was used quite a bit for people who deserted and wanted to get to the north . And they may have been some gone through1here . Over the Rich mountain gap, but from what I've heard I think most of the raiding through here was just you might say a bunch of outlaws. People who had found a way to live off the other people. Interviewer: Yeah. Mr. Proffit: in that. I don't think they was any organized connection with the north There was a school that stood down in this bottom that belongs to Darrell Green now. Of course it was just a conscription school. The people who had children to send payed so much for the course. Interviewer : Uh-huh . Did they pay the teacher? Is that how they did it? Mr . Proffit : I think so, yeah. There wasn ' t any school board's anything like that. Just somebody that was capable of teaching would go through the community and get parents to agree to pay. Maybe a dollar or so a student. Interviewer: something? Un-huh. Did he work kinda like a circuit rider preacher of Mr . Proffit: I don ' t know how that was. Wehad a few people in the country that was qualified as school teachers. I can remember hearing that my greatgrandmother said all she got to go to school was when she would slip off and go down to this school. Her daddy wouldn ' t let her go . He wouldn't pay for the course. As far as I know that was the only school within reach of this section until after --till after the war. pause . in tape. l r. -'- t1:, . Mr . Proffit: He:.;wa·s ' brought r b~ John Moretz. He bought the Cooper place down on the other side of Big Hill . It included part of Big Hill . He put in a set of mills there several different kinds of mills and brought Jacob Winebarger with him to keep up the mill, sharpen his stones and all of that. Interviewer: Un-huh . �6 Mr. Proffit: Then Winebarger married one of his girls and moved over here on Meat Camp. Interviewer: Un-huh. Did they have any stores or anything? Mr. Proffit: Not back at that time. Gargan Council had a store at Boone. That was-- I think he started maybe in the 1820's. He had the first post office in the country too. Interviewer: Un-huh. People were just what more self sufficient than they needed a store for I guess? Mr. Proffit: Yeah. All Council could have sold was just mostly stuff they couldn't raise here. After a while of course they probably got to bringing in more stuff like it has been ever since. But orginally I think it was jist finery mostly and maybe salt and stuff like that. The only store I know of that was anywhere close here was down --was down on Big Hill and that was after the civil war throgh . You've probably heard it called Soda Hill. - l· Do you remember hearing that? P Interviewer: I can't think, I don't know. Mr. Proffit: I can remember when they still called it Soda Hill but its called Big Hill now. But they said the reason they called it that was cause the i· first soda that was ever sold in this country was brought there. .) Uh-Is that drinking soda or baking soda? No baking soda. Interviewer: / Interviewer: Mr. Proffit: 5 They still don't call drinks soda here. Intervierer: Yeah. I guess that's just where where I'm from. 0 Interviewer: / ,) Irterviewer: Yeah. They call them soda. Mr. Proffit: Now what do we need after the civil war? just the same kind of thing? What particular Interviewer: Yeah, What kind of schools, churches, were there---Did the area change a whole lot after the civil war-- were there a lot of changes that happened in here? Mr. Proffit: Not that I know of on Meat Camp. There might have been some Cilffeqmce pt6bablj would· .have been but the way of life all that was the same on. Interviewer: Yeah. Mr. Proffit: There never was anything here to begin with except just the natural things and--- <• �7 Interviewer: Well that's enough. Mr. Proffit: There was no business of ever carried on here . And there's not that unless you have improvements . Of you could pull by tracters things like was very little change in general. ~~ any kind, farming was all that was room for a great amount of change in course after they begin making machinery that has changed . But I guess there ~ cl' ' ..,::' Interviewer: Part of it or something? Yeah . Mr . Proffit: It's actually been a part of five counties in its history but from the time it was settled in here. Wilkes county was formed in 1778 . I think and it included this. This was all Wilkes county then on some says to Mississippi others claim it didn't go that far, but anyway it took in a great part of Tenn . And I don't know I may have given you that date wrong did I say 1778? Interviewer: Yeah. Mr. Proffit : Well that's what I meant anyway . Interviewer : 0 . K. Mr. The and was but Proffit: In 1799, Ashe county was formed and it included all this. line·-went t not , to far from where it is now between Wilkes county, AShe Watauga and partof Mitchell was together at that time all of Avery county in Ashe county. No that ' s wrong part of Avery was formed with Mitchell, a good part of it was Watauga territory and Watauga was formed in 1849. Interviewer: Now Watauga was formed out of thos five counties? Mr. Proffit: No part of that was took off Watauga . Avery county was in Watauga county until 1911. The line between Ashe and Watauga is close to where it was orginially. There's been a few changes to straighten places. And there ' s been other changes, no point in going into it, a little along . The v Caldwell line and so on . But tis section in here sll that's in Watauga now was in Ashe until 1849 that's from 1799 on . Now from there was three years that David Miller represented Watauga county of course he didn't live in Meat CAmp then he lived on Big Hill. But he owned most of Meat Camp he was representive in 18-- I think 1810, 11 and 13 . He skipped one year . It was one year terms then. Interviewer: Un-huh. Mr. Proffit: And as far as I know he was the only politican that we could clairp, Yeah, I was right 1810, 11, and 13. ~'::. -10 Mr . Proffit : I may not have anything down on the others and their homes latter if I don't we can put it together. You've turned that thing off . END OF SIDE ONE . �8 Interviewer: Road, about the same as it was then? Mr . Proffit Yeah, in places the old road bed shows a good it of the way it was , over in the bootom a little out here . You may have noticed this low place in the bottom . And up through there I don't know just about where it left up about Bernard Hodgeson ' s I guess it took up around the spur and went up around the hill instead of going up the creek. Expept for that it's pretty well the same. Now down below here it crossed it about 8 or 10 times . But outside of that well it ' s still about the same instead of going straight it went the easiest way I reckon. Interviewer : What about briages? They just went through the creek? Mr. Proffit : Yeah, had a footlog for walkers--drive horses through the creek . Interviewer : Did they~I know they did in a lot of the rest of the country . Did they get --have people volunteer when they started putting--really cuttin the roads out alot, putting the tops on them. Did they have people volunteer to do that in this area . Mr. Proffit: That was appointed. I don't know wheather local, probably was a state law that a man over 21 years had to serve so many days a year in road work. When they wanted to patch or repair it, they just had an owerseer that notified the people to meet at a certain time . I think it was three days that every man had to give in a year. He could hire somebody if he wanted to, but somebody had to work in his name. Interviewer: Uh- huh. Was that ever really inconvient for the people here? Mr . Proffit : I don ' t know of course at that time everybody just worked at home I guess it wouldn't have made the difference it woild now. After people got on jobs of course it would be inconvient, but when you ' re just working the farm I don't imagine it bothered to much . Interviewer: I was thinking like as times when they might be harvesting and digging up their crops, that i it might be inconvient for them. Mr. Proffit: as possible . Well, I imagine that was arranged probably to avoid that as much Interviewer: Un-huh . Mr . Proffit: Now on the other things-the work- I mean in the community we had several people that could do several different kinds of work, blacksmiths, and cabin makers, and shoe makers and all that. Practically everything was made in the community. Interviewer: When people needed something like that or if they wanted a cabinet made and they went to the cabinet maker did they--I imagine they didn't always pay them with money . They might have changed services or bartered with them ~.· �9 most of the time. Mr. Proffit: Yeah, that was common if a man didn't have money to pay he might have something he could swop for it or work a day or something. Interviewer: I'd kinda like to do that myself. Mr. Proffit: And it didn't run to much. It might have cost you maybe a dollar to have a bed made or--of course that was still alot then waking for about a quarter a day. Interviewer: Let's see- as far as the schools what was the first public school that they had in this area. Mr. Proffit: I guess Winebarger, no I don't know wheather it was called Winebarger then or not. There was an old school that stood where Proffit's Grove church is now on the same spot, but I don't think, yeah it probably was a public school too. I mean open to anybody and it was probably built not to long after the war. After the building got old they condemned that bottom above where Wilcox lives and built a school house in it. That was the Winebarger school there. And I think that's all the schools that's been on Meat Camp. Three's all I know of. Interviewer: Did people usually donate their land and the building materials in order to get a school. Mr. Proffit: They did on the first. Now I dbn't know about the second school. I don't have any information on it at all. Interviewer: Un-huh. Mr. Proffit: They condemned the land for the Winebarger school. It belonged to Chap Proffit and I don't think he wanted to sell it. So they just condemned it and paid him whatever a comminitee said it was worth. Interviewer: Un-huh. Mr. Proffit: And I don't know now about the building. Who paid for it? It could have been paid for by state funds . Of course that was--I don't know the daoe., it could have been after WWl or it could have been before. Interviewer: Unl huh. Mr. Proffit: Proffit's Grove church-if you want more on churches was started orginally as an arm of Meat CAmp, I think I've got records on that somewhere if you want me to check it would be better than guessing. Interviewer: Sure. Mr. Proffit: The next church on Meat Camp was the Lutheran Church. I believe. Do you know what they called it? (Question directed to Laura Proffit) Laura Proffit: What? �10 Mr. Proffit: Laura Proffit: Mr. Proffit: Laura proffit: What did they call the Lutheran church what name ,the old one? The What? The old Lutheran Church? Up here; Well what was the name of that church? Mr. Proffit: Well anyhow it was the Lutheran congregation. down below Lucy Winebarger lived. Laura Proffit: Mr. Proffit: Laura Proffit: I know what the---Well just let it go. But I can't the more think of it than nothing. Mr. Proffit: When they rebuilt they called the new one have been the same as the old one but I don't know. Laura Proffit: I know where the church is and all that. many and a many of a Sunday up there. Interviewer: Now when they rebuilt ~1ount Well what was it? Zion it could I went to Sunday School Where was the first one located? Mr. Proffit: It was on the bank just abive where Dayton Winebarger's house is around a little behind it. Right straight in front of the old Willy house. And it was--oh-I don't know-50 yds above. the Willy house I guess or above the road. It's been down for 30,35 years or more. Laura Proffit: The f irst Christmas card I ever seen. He sent me and Lunda. Sent it to both of us. Put both our names on it. And I guess its in there in that old trunk yet. Well what in the world--I don't know. Mr. Proffit: Laura Proffit: not? Mr. Proffit: Well let it go. We'll get on with this. It wasn't . Mount Zion was it? I don't know whether it was or Anyway it vrns started about 1874. Laura Proffit: Now that one and Hopewell and Meat Camp was the only churches there was through this country at that time. Ana people went to them all when there was meetin or something, everybody -people would all go to each of them and they'd be houses full. Mr. Proffit: Well drop that now. We're going on. The Proffit's Grove church according to the minutes of Meat Camp was first established as an arm of Meat Camp in Feb. 17 or 1890. They had a-- as it says here- a protractal meeting at the head of Meat Camp. Condu c ted by J. F. Dotson, L.A. Wilson~ David Green and they reciev ed some members from that and granted premission to hold services there as f ar as down to Meat Camp and from then on for several years they had minutes in there records from this arm. They begin making up money then to try �11 to build a church house. And I don't know exactly the time I think about 1911 maybe they got it finished and seperated from Meat Camp. That seems to be all I~ got on that. Interviewer: What about the Methodist Church? M~Proffit: Yeah, it was--I forget- Ithink there's a sign on the side of the house there that tells when it was organized- seems like that-- It may have been around 1911 or 12. I'm not certain now. All the people up there went to Hopewell to they got that one started. I know in the early 1900's they still had funeral services for Methodists at Hopewell then. I imagine that it probably was around 1910 or 11 when it was built. I believe that's the last one until the Holiness church wasn't it? I don't rememoer that was in the 50's sometime I don't remember the exact date maybe 55 or 6 somewhere along there could have been 54. Interviewer: Have the people in the different churches always interacted pretty well er have the different churches always interacted pretty well with each other? Mr. Proffit: Well, not to a great extent 1n some ways they have. IN community affairs I think they did pretty much. In there religion they didn't tend to as much. Each one of them was more of less to themselves a lot of people attained services other places but that was about the limits of it. Interviewer: But they did-they were- they did pretty well together in commmnity affairs and stuff like that? Mr. Proffit: Yeah, as far as I know there wasn't any what you would say antagonsism it was just-- .They just differed on what · they believed. Irterviewer: Have different community affairs or at least needs community affairs have they changed very much? i f\' community M~Proffit: Yeah there's been a lot of change in the way things are done--back in the early time according to reports at least they worked together a lot. In the fall maybe they's have corn s lfckins, bean stringins maybe things like that. The whole community about would gather in and do whatever was to be done. In the spring maybe they'd have log rollings clearing fields about all the men would ho for that. Maybe the women go and cook. I guess that's been the biggest change you don't find any of that now. No logs to be rolled no corn to shuck either and it was said that back in the time after the civil war for years when people would have there corn in there was a custom more or less to put a gallon of whiskey under one shuck or pack and when they got down do it. Then whoever get it first got the first drink out of it. Interviewer: M~Proffit: Then pass it around Yeah Interviewer: I thenk its interesting that they were able to take something like that and make it into a community type of affair and have fun with it as well as They could take there work and have fun with it. Its kinda hard to do these days. �12 Mr. Proffit: Yeah. There conditions was all different. You couldn't very well get anything now to draw a whole community in. Of course the community is a whole lot bigger than it was then to, people I mean. Irterveiwer: Right Mr Proffit : And travel and all that was pretty much restricted to home . You couldn't go any distance in a day and no roads either . Back when they first settled this country there wasn't ever a wagon road. Interveiwer: Do you think. One thing I ' ve noticed about Heat Camp is that there's not a whole lot of development in this area and ah. llr _ E roffit ~ : No Inte rveiwer Which I think is good for this area. would like to see a little bit more development. Do you think people around here Mr. Proffit: I'd say most of them probably wouldn't . Interveiwer : Um-huh Mr . Proffit : For one thing its pretty well the same families now as it was back early. Practically everybody in this community is related and with some exceptions most of land still belongs to the descendants of the orginal families . I think Probably that would make some difference . Interveiwer : I hope so M~Proffit: Developing would bring in outsiders . That nobody knows. Of course this Proffit place over here on the back of the mountain was sold to some developers. I don ' t know how much of it has been resold . There ' s a few houses been built on it. I don't know who anybody is . Whether they ' re even from any where in this country or not . I doubt it . Interveiwer : Do most of the people-the few that do move into this country-do they adapt pretty well . Do you think? Mr Proffit: Well I think so of course some of them just stay to themselves . They don ' t get acquainted to many. People here don ' t bother them . Interveiwer : People still pretty close knit? MrProffit : Well pretty much . Nows there ' s a few, the Todd family out on the section toward the flat woods. 0 dpn ' t think they mingle so nuch with the people but yet they don't slight them or anything like that. They ' ve been here several years and I think most people who know them seem to like them . There ' s a man bought a place up here above the mill flune, everyboky that knows him said he ' s a nice man but they'er was very few that knew him . But I think he's sold it now . �13 Interveiwer: Um huh Mr Proffit: But s-till that's not qu~te the same as a development in the since that you mean. I mean a family here and there. Itterveiwer: Right, Yeah I mean like people coming in and building apartments and that sort of t9ing. Mr Proffit: Yeah, I understood what you meant. Itterviewer: Yeah, I think its really unique to this area compared to the rest of .Watauga county that that hasn't happened yet and I hope it never does. Mr. Proffit: Yeah. Interviewer: But maybe the strength is in that this area still in the land everythings still owned by the folks who are descends of the orginial settlers. Where as in so many other places its all just been sold. Mr. Proffit: Mostly everybody involves strangers. Interviewer: They come from some other part of the country, where they come in here and they, they don't really take the time to look at how people live here am the way people are here. They kind o f expect them to be the way. that they are, f rom where they come from. Mr. Proffit: That makes one considerable difference; you hardly ever find customs the same in two places. There are people here, practically all of them can trace connectiona back to some of their earlier families, some of 'em know about all. Mr. Proffit gets up to clean his pipe and tape is shut off at this point. Cut back on as Deloris is asking about work ane outside of the area. Mr. Proffit: I don't believe I quite understand what you mean. Interviewer: Well, I mean like working in Plants. Mr. Proffit: Well, I don't hardly know that. There wasn't but very little of it before World War LL. Course there wasn't any factories here in the county till after the war I guess. Pipe shop at Boone may have been the first to employ any number of people, it didn't employ a lot. And I'd say that was probably in the forties--must have been. Tobacco warehouses in Boone went in somewhere along there, '39 or '40 maybe and that employed a few people at a particular time but it was just seasonal . Some people went to Lenior and other places to work in the furniture factories before that, but it was just one here'n there. There was a hosiery mill--! don't remember the name of it. That could've been in the '40's. And later on I guess probably that I RC may have been t~e first big factory. Probably Shadowline was next and the saw plant may be the last one.Vermont American. Interviewer: There aren't any plants in the Meat ·Camp area ar all? �14 Mr. Proffit: There's H & T Chair down here in my place. It's a amall operation. Course there was a few years that they did a good business. Its still runnin', but-------I don't know of anything else. Interviewer: Most other businesses that would be in this community be like some of the stores? would ~ just Mr. Proffit: I suppose it would. I don't think of anything that --nothing that employs many people or furnishes much business except that. Interviewer: And farming------that some people might do. do it on a large scale anymore, do they? I guess they wouldn't Mr. Proffit: Not, not much. There's a few people that still with a farm' n cattle together earn a good bit of money. The Green's down in the lower end. I don't know, there may be a few others. Farming wouldn't account for too much through here now. Interviewer: Just kind of, you grow what vegetables you need for your own use? Mr. Proffit: Yeah. Interviewer: Did you have a pretty good year this year? Mr. Proffit: Well fair, I didn't have as much yeild as I like to have but everything was good, I mean, all done very well, just didn't turn off too much. Interviewer: Yeah- I didn't get much art of my garden this year so I was wondering? Interviewer: This is off the subject a little but do you know what nationalities the people were that first came? M~Proffit: Pretty well. I'd say that practical all of them, the first one's English, course its' a mixture after all. We got in t .h e country now, the origial, we got English, Welsh, Irish, Scotish, a trace of Belgian, some Danish, German, and Dutch. I don't know of anything else. Practically all of us have got a bit of all of it. Now the Byrans is Danish. Morgan Bryan was born in Denmark and ·.his wife was Dutch. She was ·born somewhere in the Netherlands I think. Interviewer: Holland probably. Mr. Pro ff it: Then her family moved to France and she was raised there. ~h'" y ~ me~· in P;;± i ad~lphia . .. , Th~- Prof.fit~ \<!a~ En,giish. - There Is a ·nifxfore ·a f 'possibly Irish and certainly Scotish in the family. The Lewis'· was Welsh and the Joneses, course we don't have any Joneses now in the community that I know of, used to be some, And there's well been another family of two of Welsh connections. The �15 Greens and certain others were Scottish . The ijoleman's English but their names supposed to it ' s called- a Viking settlement in England. in time. But about all the families here was than the others. After a while anything runs Davis ' was Welsh, I overlooked them. have come from .Danedyher- whatever They mingled with the English people principally English I imagine moreso out, I reckon . Interviewer: Has un-huh- lets see how to word this. Has as far as where people are living now, in the homes that their living in--has Meat Camp gotton any smaller you know people living closer together or do they--is there still a pretty good distance between homes? Mr . Proffit: Well, they is a lot closer than they used to be, course they're more people . P.e say ' s (his uncle) he can remember when there weren't but a half a dozen or so homes on Meat Camp, on the ------ Interviewer: Uh-huh . Are you still able to do a lot of hunting around in this area? Mr. Proffit: Well you could some if there was anything to hunt for . It's pretty cleared out of game now . Course the turn loose deer and bear and so on, but I don't think they allow hunting them yet . The old native games about all gone. Interviewer : Were there any doctors that lived in Mr. Proffit : Uh not that I know of. (addressed to Uncle) Tom Proffit: ~he area? Wllere did Tom Blackburn live, at Todd? Yeah, I think so. Mr. Proffit : I guess he was the closest one, there was one, Sutherland- Stopwell I think. Some at Boone, but I don ' t think we ever had any on Meat Camp . The doctorin here was done mostly by the people in the community without a license . Now Granny Winebarger was a Doctor of sorts . Course she was mainly a midwife, but she treated people for what they had any knowledge of. Interviewer: They depended on a lot on the midwifes for a lot of the doctoring, didn ' tthey? I guess deliverying babies but a lot of general medicine stuff too. Mr. Proffit : Yeah, they treated fevers and ever so many things like that . Practically anything except most serious things. I don't suppose they tried to set bones or anything like that . But they had a pretty good knowledge of most of the general ailments . Now this Granny Winebarger I mentioned was Jacobs ' wife . The one that first settled here. Sne had a doctor book . Had, I suppose , a description of simptons and so on, what to use to treat different things. A lot of it was superstition. Granny Proffit was a midwife too, I don ' t knm.r if she went in for any other kind of doctoring or not . Aunt Evan Moretz was , I believe she had a pretty good knowledge of various things. Interviewer : Did they use a lot of they used a lot of herbs I guess, didn't they? Mr. Proffit : Oh practically all, even the doctors did back at that time . �16 Interviewer: Do they still grow many of those types of herbs or do they grow wild? Mr. Proffit: They mostly grow wild, I don't know wheather anybody cultivates any of them or not. You can still find some of them in the woods places. Interviewer: Do you remember who some of the first teachers were in this area? Mr. Proffit: Well I don't know, about a long way back Epheran Miller was a teacher. Interviewer: Is this the same one that was in the Civil war? Mr. Proffit: No that a different one, his nephew. That would of been at a later time after the war. Probabably a good many years after. I can't give you the names of any before then, now. I don't think of any. Interviewer: Were most of the teachers that came into this area, really at ·any time were they, were many of them from this area originally? Mr. Proffit: Well, I suppose they all would've been, early. Ephan w-s raised I guess in there-- Riddles Fork section, which you would say next door at least. Well he lived on Meat Camp too, I forgot about after he married he lived in the Woodring hollar. So I guess he probably did live here when he was teaching here. Course I can remember on a few would have been teaching, but that's on ahead of where you wanted I guess. Interviewer~ ·: ~ot, 1 well ( '.Delci>;n-is- ) , Yeah . . Mr. Proffit: Glayds Moretz was my first teacher. Eleanor Moretz was a teacher, she lived-uh-well in the house where the Barlow boy lives now. Owen .Winebarger was the first one I can remember I guess. I don't even know back behind them. Burt Davis was a teacher but he lived down at Riddles Fork, too or the other side. Interviewer : How many -uh- months when the schools, like the first schools- were Proffits Grove church is now- how many months of the year did they go? Mr. Proffit: I think that was a three months school. Interviewer: You know what year that it was torn down? Mr. Proffit: No do you know? (addressed to Uncle) Torn Proffit: What? Mr. Proffit: The old school house, when was it tore down? Torn Proffit: I don't know, the main old one I don't know. Mr. Proffit: Now they used it for a church building a long time after they quit using it for a school. Torn Proffit: Now when I went to school the main old school that had been there, �17 it was already tore down. That's been about 80 years ago cause I'm 85 and a little over and that ' s first school I ever went to when Gutter(?) Moretz was the teacher . Mr. Proffit: Now he lived on Big Hill. Interviewer : He traveled over here? Mr . Proffit: to Unclel Yeah, I suppose he did . Tom Proffit: I guess he did. I guess he went home didn't he? (addressed Mr . Proffit: At that time they didn't mind 6 or 8 miles so much . been a pretty good walk, maybe more than that. He lived Course it had --- END OF SIDE 11, TAPE 1 . Tom Proffit: It was usaally out about Christmas. Mr . Proffit: Well it would have been September probably when it started. Interviewer: Did it interfer very much with things you know like the farming end-of what the students had to do at home? Mr. Proffit: No I wouldn't think so, They probably would have had the work pretty well done up by that time. Of course the children that was old enough to do much worked with it and kept up if there was anything to do anyway. Interviewer : know? What was the average number of students that went up there do you Mr . Proffit : Do you know how many went about? (Question addressed to his Uncle) Tom Proffit: No it was about full, but I don ' t know if they ever kept talley or not, how many went . Interviewer: Who paid the teachers? Mr . Proffit: How did they handle the paying then? Tom Proffit : I reckon they did, county one, I don't know which . Did the state pay then or--? Mr . Proffit : County possibly at that time . Of course the earliest one was subscription People just paid so much for their own children. The time he's talking about I guess it was county or state one . Interviewer : Did teachers back then did they ever like talk to the parents of the students very much? You know like they've got the PTA today? Mr. Proffit: No . No I don ' t think so . Interviewer: Un-huh. �18 Mr. Proffit : How it was, was if the parents didn't like something they'd go down and jump on the teacher . But as far as any discussion now what you mean is wherehow they are doing in school and all that, I doubt of there was much of that. Tom Proffit : No. Mr. Proffit : Have you got any other questions? Interviewer: You mentioned a- one fellow around that was from Meat ·camp that had been involved in politics back around the civil war . Mr. Proffit : Yeah, That was before . It was in the early 1800 ' s . Interviewer: Was there anybody after that? Mr. Proffit: 1 don ' t know of anybody office above the county level or not. officers but I don ' t remember anybody Now Spencer Blackburn was raised over but I don't think he lived over there Interviewer: on Meat CAmp that ever served in any political Of course we ' ve had commissariers and local else that went to legislature to congress . here on the Green Place. He was in Congress the time he was in congress . Is that state congress? Mr. Proffit: No. He was national, but he was raised over close above that place I told you about that was sold off to the developers, the Edmund Blackburn place. I don't know how long he served, it was in I think, in the 1890's wouldn ' t it when he was in. Tom Proffit : Probably was. Mr . Proffit : I don't know how long he served he died in office. But he was a young man yet when he died so he might not have served more than two or three terms . Interviewer: As far as Meat CAmp conununity do you-~Has there ever been a time when it was really ever considered as a community? Mr . Proffit : Well of course in the earlier times it wouldn't have been . I ' d say the main development started from about 1835 along there. The Ragan ' s family could have lived on Meat Camp or it could have been a long ways on either side and still have been on there property. I don't know where there orginial home was and the Greens didn ' t live here to latter, I mean, on what we call Meat Camp now, it was on further down . I expect Joe Miller might have been the first one to live right on--in the valley here . Interviewer : Say like about 1835 would they have been having conununity meetings and that sort of things? Mr . Proffit : No, that would have been a little to early for that . It was-He lived here then . Billy Miller on the head of the creek 2 miles apart. And Levi Wilson- 3 or 4 families . They probably wouldn ' t have been much between them at that time. �19 Interviewer: Was it refered to as ~eat Camp at that time? Mr. Proffit: Yeah. According to the old tales that we use--the name comes from back when people from below the mountains would come up and hunt. They'd kill deer and bear and so on, skin it out. And they had a place where they took the meat and stored it to they went back. That's what give it the name. There's two or three places that's been pointed out as the camp. Of course that's just theory but chances are they are all right, there might have been a camp maybe on the lower end and one on the upper end too. There's supposed to be one down in the field I reckon you would call it or use to be a field, belongs to the Greens now. Down the creek below Meat Camp service station in there. Some claims there was one on the land, I guess Gene Moretz owns now. And theres a possibility that there was. They could have stored one time at one place and the other at the other place. Wouldn't necessarily have to be any conflict in it. Tom Proffit: Well the camp burnt. That's what give it the name Meat Camp I think. Interview.er: Has there ever been any conflict between any of the families that have lived in this community? Proffit: No, nothing more than just ordinary spats. No feuds or anything like that. Actually the most of what trouble thats been here has been between people that has moved in from somewhere else,' all the killing that I know of has been between people that use to live somewhere else and moved in here. Of course sometimes there'd be fights and people maybe be mad . for a few days. But in general I imagine its been about as peaceable as any community amoung the originial settlers. ~r. Pause in tape -"') Interviewer: Do you have any more questions? 0 Interviewer: Not that I can think of. J Interviewer: I think we've pretty well covered everythin?. Mr. Proffit: Are you interested in mills and blacksmiths shops? Interviewer: Sure Anythings that's----Yeah. Mr. Proffit: Well of course the Proffit mill I think was the first one on Meat CAmp. I don't know when it was built but I'd say brobably by 1850 or maybe a little before. Jacob Winebarger's very likely was the next. I don't know the date. Thats been argued at different time but very likely in the 1860's. I think Will said about about 1873 I think he's a little late oa it I believe it was a little eearlier than that. I can't give you the dates now or even the order exactly but Poula(?) Moretz had a rollar mill in the bottom where Clint Miller lives now. Thatwas a lot later through. There was one up at the Lester Wilcox place. I think the old wheel may be there yet, I don't remember now. The building is partly there at least. I think the last time I noticed it the water wheel was there but it may be gone. I wouldn't say. And there was one up above where Dean Proffit lives. �20 Lark run it for years, Lark Miller, and--Did Willet have a mill there before Lark did? Tom Proffit : I don't know, probably did have. Mr . Proffit : He had one somewhere in there . Gene Moretz had one on up above his house. I think its still there water wheel and building at least or was a few years ago . I don't remember if there's anymore or not . Jacob Winebarger had a blacksmith shop back early, and latter Will Winebarger had one . I believe the old building is there yet . Noah Winebarger had one between the road and the creek just across from the Harvey Trivette house. Hosea Miller had a shop up upon the mountain a little . Interviewer : Do blacksmiths work on wagons as well as on the horses? Mr. Pro f fit : Yeah . Interviewer: They were kinda like the early auto mechanics I guess. Mr . Proffit : Yeah it was pretty good business putting tires on wagons wheels . They used Iron tires on them. They'd weld the tires and put them on the wheels and they made other metal pieces that had to be used on wagons . They fired plows and things like that. Interviewer: Did they do any tanning or anything the blacksmiths, or would they let someone else? Mr. Proffit : I don't think so. That would have been-or might be somebody that could about everything might have probably-- I don't think it was connected with the blacksmith work. Show us an Iron . Mr. Proffit : Ther ' s an iron Noah Winebarger put a handle in . broke off he made that one . The handle got Interviewer : Do they set this in coals or something set this in and get it hot? Mr. Pro f fit: I don't know how it was done . Interviewer: You would think he bought it like this . Mr. Proffit: Welded without a torch at that time. Interviewer : They welded this without any torch that's amazing . But he welded the handle in it . Mr . Pro f fit: They heated the two pieces of metal red hot and put borers on that piece that was welded to it and hammered it together. Interviewer: Uh-huh. �21 Interviewer: I don't think I'd like that job. shows us a device used to make shoes Mr. Proffit: Put the shoe on there and hanuner it. Interviewer: Did they--! read somewhere that use to---that they use to didn't make shoes for right and · left feet they made so that they could fit on either foot. Mr. Proffit: Laura Proffit: there too? I've heard that, I don't know whether it's right or not. There use to be one size bigger than that like that. Mr. Proffit: That's the only one that's here. Tom Proff i t: Is it under I thought there was two or three in that outfit. Mr. Proffit: Peopl~ made there oym shoes back then too. for others. Roby Bryan could make shoes. Interviewer: Few people made them Where they just all leather is that how they'd make them, the material? Mr. Prof f it: I think so. Yeah. like that for soles, then. END OF INTERVIEW , . I don't suppose they had any rubber or anything MIDDLE OF SIDE 1. � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews Description An account of the resource In 1973, representatives from Appalachian State University (ASU) began the process of collecting interviews from Watauga, Avery, Ashe, and Caldwell county citizens to learn about their respective lives and gather stories. From the outset of the project, the interviewers knew that they were reaching out to the “last generation of Appalachian residents to reach maturity before the advent of radio, the last generation to maintain an oral tradition.” The goal was to create a wealth of data for historians, folklorists, musicians, sociologists, and anthropologists interested in the Appalachian Region. The project was known as the “Appalachian Oral History Project” (AOHP), and developed in a consortium with Alice Lloyd College and Lees Junior College (now Hazard County Community College) both in Kentucky, Emory and Henry College in Virginia, and ASU. Predominately funded through the National Endowment for the Humanities, the four schools by 1977 had amassed approximately 3,000 interviews. Each institution had its own director and staff. Most of the interviewers were students. Outgrowths of the project included the Mountain Memories newsletter that shared the stories collected, an advisory council, a Union Catalog, photographs collected, transcripts on microfilm, and the book Our Appalachia. Out of the 3,000 interviews between the three schools, only 663 transcripts were selected to be microfilmed. In 1978, two reels of microfilm were made available with 96 transcripts contributed by ASU. An annotated index referred to as The Appalachian Oral History Project Union Catalog was created to accompany the microfilm. The catalog is broken down into five sections starting with a subject topic index such as Civilian Conservation Corps, Coal Camps, Churches, etc. The next four sections introduced the interviewees by respective school. There was an attempt to include basic biographic information such as date of birth, location, interviewer name, length of interview, and subjects discussed. However, this information was not always consistent per school. 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Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 111_tape490-1_RobertProffit_transcript_M Title A name given to the resource Interview with Robert Proffit [October 3, 1980] Language A language of the resource English English Type The nature or genre of the resource Document Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a title="Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews, 1965-1989" href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/195" target="_blank">Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews, 1965-1989</a> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Skelton, Joseph Proffit, Deloris Proffit, Robert Subject The topic of the resource Mountain life--North Carolina--Watauga County--History Mountain life--North Carolina--Ashe County--History Mountain life--North Carolina--Wilkes County--History Mountain life--North Carolina--Avery County--History Description An account of the resource Robert Proffit talks about Meat Camp's early history from the first settler John Green in 1788. Over the next few decades, people began to trickle in to Western North Carolina. He talks about the first churches in the area: Hopewell Methodist Church and Meat Camp Church. He also describes the civil war, how many members of the community enlisted with the confederate army, but after the war there wasn't much difference in Meat Camp. Proffit explains Meat Camp well with this statement: "there was never anything here to begin with except just natural things." Ashe County Avery County Big Hill blacksmith Boone David Miller Early Settlers H&T Chair herbs herbs and roots Hopewell Methodist Church John Green Meat Camp Meat Camp Church Proffit's Grove Church Riddles Fork Robert Proffit roots Spencer Blackburn tobacco warehouse Watauga County N.C. Wilkes County https://omeka-test.library.appstate.edu/files/original/7955776b936911d510652d48df4bdfc7.pdf 88316902588f76fe8dea2556b50fc363 PDF Text Text Collection 111. Appalachian Oral History Project Records, Tape 74 Interviewees: Mr. and Mrs. Jim Greer Interviewer: n/a Date: 11 June 1973 Transcriber: J. McTaggart Interviewer: This is an interview with Mr. and Mrs. Jim Greer for the Appalachian Oral History Project in Triplett on June 11th, 1973. Okay, first I'd like to have your names and ages, please. Jim Greer: Mine's James Calvin Greer and I'll be 65 years old on the fourth day of September. I: Oh okay, what about you, Mrs. Greer? Vera Greer: Um mines Vera Greer and I'll I was 61 the first day of May. I: Oh and where were you born? JG: I was born around here at the community center. I: Wereya? JG: Yeah, just around the road there. VG: Yup right at the community, yeah. And I was born in Caldwell County. I: Have you lived around here all of your lives? JG:No. VG: No. I: Where have you lived? JG: I lived in [inaudible] state gone for four years before I come back. I lived in Caldwell County, Wilkes County. VG: Who's that? I hear another car. JG: I don't see it. Some folks bought that place up here. I: Why did you move from here? JG: Well, my mother moved to Wilkes County to my sister's and my daddy he left when I was four years old. Mama had to keep me and my sister up 'til I got big enough to work. And I had to help her 'til I got grown. We left here when I was about nine years old and went on up ahead the creek where Ralph Greene lives now; got roots and herbs and gathered barks and stuff to get our groceries and clothes with. Mama made all my clothes she just bought the cloth and made it. And uh you couldn't get no work �nowhere; there was no work to do. And I wasn't big enough to work and mama she'd wash around here on [inaudible] branch all day for 50 cents. [Inaudible] not too big a washing for 50 cents. I: How would she wash 'em? JG: With her hands and washboard, paddle board. Stand on big ol' banks and she had the paddle and she'd beat the dirt out with the paddle. It was rough going, I'll tell you. I: Were there just you and your sister in your family? JG: Yeah at that time, the other had three. VG: She was married twice [inaudible] the first time. JG: She was married twice, my mother but the other two was married and gone. Last, my daddy was being an [inaudible] sister. I: Is she older or younger? JG: She's younger than I am. Daddy [inaudible]. I: What was your father's occupation? JG: Well, he worked for people, dug ditch and anything you could get do. VG: All of these cleared fields on top of the mountain up here he cleared them. JG: On top of the mountain up here, he cleared them. When you first go out up here them fields out there when you first go out old man Tom Greer's mail [inaudible] on top of his up there. All them fields my daddy cleared back there. I: Well, how did he do it? JG: Ax, chopped 'em. I've seen him cut trees down four foot through with an ax, chop 'em down. I: How long would it take him? JG: Well, it'd take him three or four hours. I: And how much would he make? JG: Well, he got when he did get anything it was 33 and 1/3 cents a day was all he got out of his work. Killed himself at work and people living off his labor right now, enjoying it. I: Did your mother work or was she just around the house? JG: She worked around the house and whatever she'd get to do for people, haul corn and stuff like that. Wash and things like that; we'd walk way up here to the creek, three miles down here [inaudible] the branch and do a little washing. �I: She would just do the neighborhood's washing? JG: Yeah, mm hm ol' lady [inaudible] and uh Minnie Hayes' mother, yeah. She'd come on out of there and work all day and get by the time we had a cow, she'd take it up and fodder. You know, top fodder of corn. She'd give it about five or six shucks of top for a day's work. And she done carry them out from around there [inaudible] Creek here in about three miles. And I'd come and meet her in the evening and take part of the load off of her and carry what I could. I was little I couldn't do much, 'bout five or six years old something like that. And me and her would get out in the woods and gather herbs and roots carry it little up here to [inaudible]. [Inaudible] that big brick house up there on the right of the road there used to be a big ol' store right there where that there cloth place is now. And old man [inaudible] McNee run a big store there and we'd carry our herbs up there right up there mountain 'bout I guess we'd go three miles. And the mountain we'd climb all the way 'till we got on top. I: So you would sell your roots and herbs and things? JG: Yes, maybe get up there and maybe have a dollar's worth with all we can carry. I: Mm. JG: Some of 'em were a cent a pound; some were a cent and a half some two cent, three cents. You couldn't get nothing for more than that. I've had hard all my life and the highest I ever made a working was the furniture factory [inaudible] 36 hours. I worked all my life, raised my family, worked for my mother and sister 'till I was 21 years old. I helped on that highway that goes down the mountain to Wilkesboro; I helped build that bridge from the bottom to the top. I: Really? JG: Yeah, see it's about four miles to do that, no way around it [clears throat]. I: Goodness, what do you do now, what kind of work? JG: Nothin' I've been disabled for about 16,17 years. I: Oh. JG: My [inaudible] to the heart [inaudible] won't let me. He tell me last year not even to put out a garden. The digging might have a stroke or something. I: Mm, did you have a garden when you were little and growing up with your family? JG: Yeah, me and mama gardened every year and raked. You went through the houses sits up here and you start up the mountain and you leave this old house down here at the foot with the rock crusher. The two little houses sits on the right on the holler. Now this field right here above the road me and mama made our bread on that hill there. [Background noises] �I: Made what? JG: Made our corn bread when I was a little boy. We had corn all over that hill. We had a third of it for raising. We dug holes and plant the corn with a hoe then dug it out and hoed it when it come up, made our corn up on that steep hill. It's straight up and down now. I: Goodness, I don't see how you could hoe like that. JG: You couldn't hardly stand up on it. You'd slide down and fall; we worked it 'til we got our corn worked out. We made corn out of it two or three years on that hill. It's growed up now they've been timber cut off it since me and mom worked corn on it. I: What other kind of crops did you raise? JG: Well, just beans and cucumbers and maters, Irish potatoes stuff like that. I: Did you have any livestock or animals? JG: No, well we generally kept cow most of the time. Dm, I've eaten boiled Irish potatoes for months at a time for bread. We didn't have no bread and we didn't have no bread to eat. We'd boil Irish potatoes and eat them for bread and butter. That's what we had to eat. You tell people that this day and time they wouldn't believe it but it's so. I: Hm I guess you were glad to get that though. JG: Oh Lord yeah, I was glad to get it. A lot of times we didn't have potatoes. And I've eaten water gravy a-many a-times just made out of flour and water and a little grease, you know. Maybe ol' strong meat skins or something fry the grease out of 'em and make cream gravy. [I'd] eat that many a mornin' for breakfast. I: Hm. JG: Mama made all my clothes. Here, here maybe I'll show you here. I've got a picture if I can find it when I was a little boy. Where is that picture? VG: There's one right up here. Yes sonny, they're right up here where I hang it! JG: No, not mine! VG: Yes! You're too! JG: Did I put it up here? VG: [Inaudible] I know you did! JG: I'll show you this so you know I'm telling the truth. There it is. That's me and my mother there. I: Aw. �JG: I was 21 years old when that was took down at far end of that high bridge I was telling you about. I: That's a good picture. JG: There's another one just like it. [Inaudible] my other picture. VG: Well, I don't know what you've done with it, honey! JG: Let me see. I: Your mother made these clothes? JG: Mm hm, made my clothes. VG: No, not them. She's talking about the little picture that he had. I don't know what he's done with it. JG: Here it is! Here it is! I'll show you. I knew I had this. VG: Damn, I thought that was ones he had...that is him and his mother. I: You were 21 here? VG: Yeah. JG: Mm hm. I: That's a good picture. VG: Now, right there's where... JG: That's where [inaudible] year old when that's took. You see, the homemade overalls and the shirt. You see the buttons on it. Now that pictures way old, it's about 60 years old I guess maybe more. I: Oh. JG: It was took when the old picture was crackled up you know and you couldn't get the crackles out of it. VG: Took it from an old picture you know. JG: A boyfriend of mine had a creek up there in little Triplett and his grandfather's back here behind. I tried to take 'em both off but didn't get 'em both. I: Who took these pictures? JG: [Inaudible] Greene took them way back when [inaudible]. VG: She lives at uh... JG: Spruce Pine. �VG: Spruce Pine! JG: She's dead now. How come you get that now she's around at Minnie Hayes's and uh asked her and she didn't have one of my old pictures when I was a little boy. And she said yeah, she did she took it with a little bitty Kodak just made little bitty pictures about 2 by or 2 by 3 or something. And uh she kept it all this time and I asked her if she'd let me have the picture. She said when I'm dead, says you can have it. I says well I might die before you go [chuckles]. So she died and her daughter had some made, some smalls made and sent me two of 'em and I took them and had 'em enlarged like that so they could be a little bigger. I: Aw, that's a good picture. JG: I was about nine years old when that was took. I: Aw, I bet you're glad to get that. JG: Oh yeah, I wouldn't take nothirt' for it. I: Goodness. JG: I wouldn't. I: Mm. JG: I had on a little black hat you see it? You can see it. VG: That was up here on [inaudible]. I: How long would it take your mother to make a pair of overalls like that? JG: It would take a month. I: Did she have an old sewing machine or would she make 'em by hand? JG: No, she made 'em by hand. I: Oh and she, where would she buy her cloth? JG: Go to Eller McNee's (?) store on top of the mountain. I: Oh yeah, do you know how much it would be back then, the cloth? JG: Well, it run sometimes 10,15 cents a yard according to what... VG: Well, you can't put the [inaudible]. [Inaudible] he had surgery on his back twice, got hurt at the shop. He dropped his [inaudible]. I: Did your mother make her clothes too? �JG: Mm hm, you had to make your clothes then couldn't go there was nowhere to buy 'em. l:Hm. JG: She make 'em [inaudible]. I stayed barefooted Christmas. I never got no shoes 'til Christmas then got these ol' brogan shoes, ol' yellow shoes with brass rivets in 'em here and brass toes on 'em 'cause if you're...hard as a rock you couldn't be in 'em, skin your feet all over. You'd have sores all over your feet and your ankles. I: Goodness. JG: It was rough going, I'll tell you. I: How far did you have to walk to school? JG: Oh, it's about three miles on the way up there to Howard's Creek where Ralph Greene lives, left at the rock crusher, and right on up the creek as far as you can go. I: Oh, really? JG: Mm hm. I: How much schooling did you have? JG: Well, I went to school to the fourth grade but I never did learn nothin'. The [inaudible] didn't have no dad either I'd look after him. These Tripletts down here all of 'em have a big head and queers(?). They beat me half to death at school and do things at school to get the teachers to beat me. And uh I couldn't help it 'cause they'd just double up on me three or four get on me at a time and beat me half to death 'till I got big enough to take 'em apart. I beat two of 'em nearly to death after I got up big enough. And I broke them and the rest of 'em ain't bother me anymore. I: They've learned their lesson [chuckles]. VG: They broke once [inaudible]. JG: So uh I was [inaudible] off the road by all the young'uns up them days when I was growing up. Everybody had well... I was the same about the same as orphans, you know. My daddy's gone, my mama had to work all the time she couldn't be with me all the time. I wasn't mean; I didn't do nothin' to nobody. And Stewart Shimens(?) around here can tell you all about my life. He knows everything about it, knows how people treated me, all these old people around here. And I was treated like a dog, what you might say all my life. I have been and since I've been married, same thing. People took off me and beat off of me and you know the same three men got [inaudible]. I: Mm, why do you think they treated you like that? JG: Well, just 'cause they could get something I had, you know, might [inaudible] borrow it and never pay it back. Things like that. I've been too easy with people, let 'em go. I ain't doing it anymore, I can't. �VG: We got a son-in-law that... JG: Owes me a thousand dollars right now. VG: Just about a thousand dollars in money now. And we will not I bet you we never as long as live see every dime of it. They done, you seen that car sitting out here when you was here before. That blue car that's pushed off down there and I told you that's my son-in-law's. Well, that's the one bless your heart and they come and got it Saturday. I: They did? VG: He told us that his daddy borrowed the money for him and paid cash for that car. And honey, it was through the American Credit right up here. JG: He borrowed the money from American Credit. VG: And went back and borrowed $75 on it besides. JG: And he's not gonna pay for but he come and got it [inaudible]. VG: But you can tell her to get back on you how you used to walk ten miles a day and work. JG: Yeah, I walked ten miles a day and worked ten hours and back home, after I go back home by moonshine. I: To moonshine? JG: By moonshine. I: Oh. JG: In the woods, you know. Go to the woods, carry wood out, and cut it up-and stow in the woods. In the summertime, work ten hours and walk five miles this way, I mean ten miles this way. I: Mm and what were you doing when you were working? VG: He worked in... JG: I worked in the furniture shop [inaudible] furniture with my mom. I lived way down on Lenoir Creek... VG: And then when we was in the Depression though we, we had a terrible time. One of our children was born. JG: Me and her during the Depression dug roots and gathered herbs to buy our clothes and groceries and the baby's clothes. VG: ...buy our first baby's clothes. I: Really? �VG: I went to the mountains this is as long as I could walk. I: Goodness. JG: ...crossing the mountains with me, we'd dig roots and gather herbs, sang and stuff. I: 'Bout how much could you get for that? JG: Well, it was cheap. VG: It was cheap then. It wasn't much... JG: You couldn't get over five cents a pound now for what we had. VG: No. JG: And I had to carry it three miles down [inaudible] in the summer. Down the mountain all the way and carry it two sacks at a time on my back. I: Was it very heavy? JG: Pretty heavy, yeah. [Inaudible] I get there. I: I bet it did [chuckles]. How many children do ya'll have? VG: We've had nine but two of 'ems dead. JG: Seven living, six girls and one boy and got two boys dead. I: You said you had a child during the Depression. VG: Yes [both talking at once]. I had one good dress and one old ratty thing I'd put on 'till I washed my good one. JG: I didn't even have clothes to change in. I wore her overalls [inaudible] my marriage and she could wash mine. And I dug the ditch and worked the hill and cut the wood for 50 cents a day and had to take it to mill our flour and a piece of meat or something like that. We couldn't get a dime to [inaudible]. Nothin'... I: So, uh did ya'll have like a farm or something during the Depression? VG: No, we just lived in what they called a little sawmill shack. You know where they built shacks through the mountains, you know, to work a sawmill. And Jim worked the sawmill some after our first baby is born and then it got down to that Depression. And uh when the next baby come along, and I'd saved her clothes. If I hadn't saved her clothes [inaudible] went naked 'cause we couldn't buy none. JG: Two hours a day at the sawmill [inaudible] and saw carrying green lumber and [inaudible] out for 50 cents a day. �10 I: Mm and was this every day? JG: Everyday 50 cents a day. That's [inaudible]. You can tell these young people about what it was like [inaudible]. I: I know it. I've heard too many people say the same thing. JG: [Inaudible] I couldn't go through it again. VG: We'd go to people's houses for the raced your own hogs and they'd give us meat skins to season what little we had to season. JG: Fry the grease out of it and season your potatoes and beans or something. I: Oh would, uh were people friendlier during the Depression? VG: Yeah! We had a few good friends not too many. JG: The town built her uncle [inaudible]. VG: And then after my baby's born, my aunt give me clothes so I could wear her clothes after the baby. I: Oh and your uncle what gave you the hog skins and stuff like that. VG: No, it was another one. JG: Yeah, he gave us some. VG: Yeah, he gave us some but there was another one. What was his name? JG: Dave Frasier gave us some. VG: Yeah, yeah. JG: [Inaudible] VG: We sure had it rough, buddy. And he worked my doctor bill out at 80 cent a day. JG: Paid half of it on the doctor bill... VG: ...and half of it to get something to eat. JG: I stayed away from Blowing Rock for a long time [inaudible]. I: And where was this? JG & VG: Down in Wilkes County. I: That's where ya'll were living during the Depression, in Wilkes County? �11 VG: Yeah. I: Did it affect many of your neighbors as far as food and things? VG:Huh? I: Did the Depression urn affect many neighbors as far as food and things? VG: Oh yeah, just about everybody. I: Did the people not have enough to eat? VG: I don't know but we didn't. JG: There was a lot of 'em didn't have enough to eat. We didn't make [inaudible]. I was eating, I was telling you about walking ten miles and working at the furniture shop. I eat oatmeal for breakfast and worked on it 'till 12 o'clock and maybe make a sandwich, a peanut butter sandwich at dinner time, cold Cola and work on it 'till night and walk on home. I: I don't see how you could stand it, could take it. JG: Well, people couldn't stand it. VG: People, people at this time now is much as uh we you know have now. JG: The people... VG: If it'd come now I don't believe could live. I: No I don't think so. JG: Well there'd be a many of 'em starve to death if the government didn't take care of 'em it wouldn't work. You couldn't get people out here and work for 50 cents a day to save your life now. They wouldn't do it but I had to do it or starve to death I didn't like the stuff. I: Did you ever hear about any of the government projects during the Depression like the WPA? JG: No, well yeah we did too. They give away stuff a lot at Wilkesboro. We never could get nothing of it. VG: Yeah, we did. We got some blankets and things one time. JG: One time, yeah one time. I'm talking about food and stuff we never did get that. VG: We didn't get no food. JG: And my brother in law, he's [inaudible]. He's got his own farm and he worked for the WPA. And I signed up don't know 50 times I guess that the WPA and they never would give me a call to work. I: Hm, I wonder why. �12 JG: I don't know why they didn't but they didn't... I: I thought they would let... VG: I think they just had their picks... JG: Yeah, just certain ones that would work three days and then the other ones would work three days. And I finally [inaudible] to call Will and I didn't have any job at the shop. I finally got on a contractors job up there building that highway to Morganton and Lenoir. I got on that and worked I get to work three days... VG: And off three days. JG: ...and off three days. I think it was a dollar, a dollar and half a day [inaudible]. I worked on that till they cut me off of it and I finally got me a job in the shop between... VG: 27 cents an hour. JG: 27 cents an hour. I: What were you doing then? JG: I was working shingling with working with [inaudible] hanging the shingles things like that. Just anything about if you wanted to know, [inaudible] cut off saw, planters, sanders, two jointers, things like that. 27 cents an hour and I worked there for nine years. Well for nearly nine years before I ever got a raise. VG: Halfway left 'till September we've been married uh, 44 years. I: Really? VG: We ain't ever been apart a day in our lives. I mean he's went off to work but what I mean you know get mad and separate or something. JG: And since then, people get married and they don't get along. VG: We don't even quarrel now maybe one of us be a little nervous and might smack one off, you know. I've got bad nerves. When I was in that wreck, I took I had the epilepse [epilepsy]. I: Oh, have you ever worked any jobs? VG: Uh uh, nothing only when I was little, I dropped corn and beans and stuff like that for people. And I take it and butter and milk and take it home to eat for all of us. I: Yeah, how many were in your family? JG: Bernie and James. �13 VG: Yeah but honey, that was after mom married the next last time. JG: Six of 'em the last time, Carl, Will, Lance, Marie, and Horace. That's six. VG: Yeah but they wasn't born when I dropped corns. JG: I know, well there was just three of you. You and James and Bernie. VG: Yeah there was just three and we had a step dad and he was a terrible man to us. Lord, he'd beat us for nothin' just beat us like beatin' a dog. I: Hm, could your mother not do anything about it? VG: No, she'd try to fight him but he could outdo her. I: Did ya'll have a farm where you lived? VG: Yeah. I: Did you have to work on the farm? VG: Yeah! He'd give us, if he couldn't find nothin' else for us to do, he'd give us about acre of land to pick up rock of the bay and we better have that done when he come in or he'd whoop. I: Why would you have to pick up the rock, where would you put the rocks? VG:Take 'em off you know pull 'em off the land where was cleared you know. He'd just have us do that 'cause he couldn't think of nothin' else for us to do. And I'd have to get all the wood and carry all the water. I: Were you the oldest? VG: Yeah, yeah I was the oldest. I: Hm, do you remember... VG: Pulling drag woods out, drag wood out of the mountains and I'd have to chop it and carry it in. I: Do you remember any good times when you were little and growing up? VG: It was a dire some place. I: You were what? VG: It was a dire some place. We went out to play, he whooped us. I: Really? �14 VG: Yeah! He let one girl, one of our girlfriends, come one time. Asked him if we could goto her house and play and he told us yeah. We didn't know no better we ain't never went nowhere you know before. And when we come back, he told us how long to stay, two hours. When we come back, he said you march right to them woods and get a hickory. I: Why? VG: He whooped us for going! I: Did he tell you you could go? VG: Yes! I: Goodness. JG: He was mean, he was just an old drunk and [inaudible] 'em. I: Oh, that's just awful. JG: I'll tell you how we treated my daddy. You know, this white house on the bank down there as you go out the first one right there. Up on that hill, well Will Willy live there now and he got my daddy to cut wood for him one time when that hill was there. And my daddy was cutting wood and a log coming through down hit his shin and [inaudible]. You know what that man done? My daddy went in the house tied it up to keep it from bleeding. Come over here son and poured on his shin on that skin place and he had a sore on his leg as long as you [inaudible]. VG: Eat it up! You know carbolic acid will eat you up! l:Ew. JG: [Inaudible] And he poured that on his leg and it skinned up like that on my daddy's leg 'til a man could cure it up. And he had a sore on his leg when he died over there. I: Goodness. JG: If I had been big enough and got hold of that man, I would kill him. That's how they treated my daddy. He worked, the people would work him and they wouldn't pay him for it. They'd say I'll pay you next week or next day or two or something like that and that'd be the last of it; maybe workin' a week at a time all he got was what we were eating. l:Hm. JG: You couldn't get no 33 and 1/3 cents a day you know what you get out of a day's work then for ten hours a day. He dug a ditch for people, cut wood, cleared off lands, cut logs for people and roll 'em into hollers, and burn 'em and everything else, clean off their land for 'em. All these big mountain fields on top the mountain when you go out, he done the most of 'em. �15 l:Hm. JG: People treated him awfully dirty but there's another day coming... I: Yeah. JG: ...when they get their part and it hits you. I: Why do you think they... [END] � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews Description An account of the resource In 1973, representatives from Appalachian State University (ASU) began the process of collecting interviews from Watauga, Avery, Ashe, and Caldwell county citizens to learn about their respective lives and gather stories. From the outset of the project, the interviewers knew that they were reaching out to the “last generation of Appalachian residents to reach maturity before the advent of radio, the last generation to maintain an oral tradition.” The goal was to create a wealth of data for historians, folklorists, musicians, sociologists, and anthropologists interested in the Appalachian Region. The project was known as the “Appalachian Oral History Project” (AOHP), and developed in a consortium with Alice Lloyd College and Lees Junior College (now Hazard County Community College) both in Kentucky, Emory and Henry College in Virginia, and ASU. Predominately funded through the National Endowment for the Humanities, the four schools by 1977 had amassed approximately 3,000 interviews. Each institution had its own director and staff. Most of the interviewers were students. Outgrowths of the project included the Mountain Memories newsletter that shared the stories collected, an advisory council, a Union Catalog, photographs collected, transcripts on microfilm, and the book Our Appalachia. Out of the 3,000 interviews between the three schools, only 663 transcripts were selected to be microfilmed. In 1978, two reels of microfilm were made available with 96 transcripts contributed by ASU. An annotated index referred to as The Appalachian Oral History Project Union Catalog was created to accompany the microfilm. The catalog is broken down into five sections starting with a subject topic index such as Civilian Conservation Corps, Coal Camps, Churches, etc. The next four sections introduced the interviewees by respective school. There was an attempt to include basic biographic information such as date of birth, location, interviewer name, length of interview, and subjects discussed. However, this information was not always consistent per school. This online project features clips from the interviews, complete transcripts, and photographs. The quality and consistency of the interviews vary due to the fact that they were done largely by students. Most of the photos are missing dates and identifying information. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Collection 111. Appalachian Oral History Project Records, 1965-1989 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1965-1989 Document A resource containing textual data. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre text. Scanned by Wetmore, Dana Equipment Hp Scanjet 8200 Scan date 2014-02-26 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Interview with Mr. and Mrs. Jim Greer, June 11, 1973 Description An account of the resource James Calvin Greer was born in Triplett, NC in 1908. Vera Greer was born in Caldwell County in 1913. Mr. and Mrs. Greer both recall very hard childhoods and growing up in the Triplett area. Mr. Greer worked at the local sawmill during the Great Depression. They recall collecting herbs and bark to pay for groceries and clothes. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Weaver, Karen Greer, Jim and Vera Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a title="Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews, 1965-1989" href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/195" target="_blank">Appalachian Oral History Project Interviews, 1965-1989</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright for the interviews on the Appalachian State University Oral History Collection site is held by Appalachian State University. The interviews are available for free personal, non-commercial, and educational use, provided that proper citation is used (e.g. Appalachian State Collection 111. Appalachian Oral History Project Records, 1965-1989, W.L. Eury Appalachian Collection, Special Collections, Appalachian State University, Boone, NC). 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Triplett, NC Subject The topic of the resource Greer, James Calvin--Interviews Greer, Vera--Interviews Depressions--1929--North Carolina--Watauga Watauga County (N.C.)--Social life and customs--20th century Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1973-06-11 barks Caldwell County Great Depression herbs Jim Greer North Carolina roots sawmill sawmill community sawmill shack Triplett Vera Greer Wilkes County https://omeka-test.library.appstate.edu/files/original/938051dadc6de71e55296bf0b893af90.pdf b28bd122869ad1c96792f626238b14b4 PDF Text Text ���������������������������������������������������������������������������� Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Andrew Jackson Greene Collection Description An account of the resource The Andrew Jackson Greene Collection consists of more than 160 diaries written by Greene who describes Watauga County's education system, including Appalachian State Teachers College, cultural and religious life, and agriculture from 1906 to 1942. <br /><br /><strong>Biographical Note.</strong> Andrew Jackson Greene (March 2, 1883-August 12, 1942) was a life-long resident of Watauga County, North Carolina and instructor in several Watauga schools including Appalachian State Teachers College (A.S.T.C). Greene worked as a farmer, public school teacher, and college professor. Greene was an enthusiastic diarist maintaining regular entries from 1906 to the day before his death. He also recorded A.S.T.C. faculty meetings from January 9, 1915 to May 3, 1940. He married Polly Warren, and they had three children, Ralph, Maxie, and Lester. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/190">AC.105: Andrew Jackson Greene Collection</a> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1906-1942 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">No Copyright - United States</a> Document A resource containing textual data. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Diary of Andrew Jackson Greene, Volume 62 [January 31, 1927 - April 12, 1927] Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a title="Andrew Jackson Greene Collection, 1906-1942" href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/190" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Andrew Jackson Greene Collection, 1906-1942</a> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1927 Extent The size or duration of the resource. 66.1 MB 76 pages Language A language of the resource English Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 105_062_1927_0131_1927_0412 Description An account of the resource Inside the diary, one can find the story of a teacher, pastor, father, and husband. He wrote about the weather, his family and his work. This diary includes information on the Appalachian Training School such as important professors and administrators, certain names of campus buildings, and the daily concerns of the classroom. It also includes information about how people of the time period traveled. Greene walked many places, sometimes a train, and sometimes he found someone with a car to drive him. Subject The topic of the resource Watauga County (N.C.)--Social life and customs--20th century Baptists--Clergy--North Carolina--Watauga County Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">No Copyright – United States</a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Diaries Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. <a title="Andrew Jackson " greene="" collection="" href="https://omeka.library.appstate.edu/collections/show/39" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> Andrew Jackson Greene collection </a> Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. <a title="https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html" href="https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html</a> Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1920s Atlantic Christian College Avery County Baptist Church of Boone Boone Clyde Greene Crossnore Cullowhee Normal School Davenport College Earl Henson G.P. 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Title A name given to the resource Andrew Jackson Greene Collection Description An account of the resource The Andrew Jackson Greene Collection consists of more than 160 diaries written by Greene who describes Watauga County's education system, including Appalachian State Teachers College, cultural and religious life, and agriculture from 1906 to 1942. <br /><br /><strong>Biographical Note.</strong> Andrew Jackson Greene (March 2, 1883-August 12, 1942) was a life-long resident of Watauga County, North Carolina and instructor in several Watauga schools including Appalachian State Teachers College (A.S.T.C). Greene worked as a farmer, public school teacher, and college professor. Greene was an enthusiastic diarist maintaining regular entries from 1906 to the day before his death. He also recorded A.S.T.C. faculty meetings from January 9, 1915 to May 3, 1940. He married Polly Warren, and they had three children, Ralph, Maxie, and Lester. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/190">AC.105: Andrew Jackson Greene Collection</a> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1906-1942 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">No Copyright - United States</a> Document A resource containing textual data. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Diary of Andrew Jackson Greene, Volume 68 [August 6, 1928 - November 10, 1928] Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a title="Andrew Jackson Greene Collection, 1906-1942" href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/190" target="_blank">Andrew Jackson Greene Collection, 1906-1942</a> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1928 Extent The size or duration of the resource. 79.4 MB 102 pages Language A language of the resource English Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 105_068_1928_0806_1928_1110 Description An account of the resource Andrew Jackson Greene kept this diary from August 6th through November 10th, during the year of 1928. Each day, Greene recorded entries about the weather, community events, friends and family visits. He also included entries devoted to Appalachian Training School, he even names some of the buildings still found on the Appalachian State University campus today such as Justice Hall and White Hall. Subject The topic of the resource Watauga County (N.C.)--Social life and customs--20th century Baptists--Clergy--North Carolina--Watauga County Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">No Copyright – United States</a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Diaries Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. <a title="Andrew Jackson "Greene collection" href="https://omeka.library.appstate.edu/collections/show/39" target="_blank"> Andrew Jackson Greene collection </a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Watauga County (N.C.) Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. <a title="https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html" href="https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html" target="_blank"> https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html</a> Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1920s Appalachian State Normal School Avery County Boone Bristol Caldwell County court Dr. W.A. Stanburym Raleigh NC Edwin Dougherty Elk Park faculty meeting Hardie Lyons J.H. Highsmith Justice Hall Leroy Martin Middle Fork Church Miss Mary Hale Miss Ruth Rankin Mitchell County N.C. President Dougherty Reverend P.A. Hicks Vilas W.H. Brown Watauga County N.C. 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Title A name given to the resource Andrew Jackson Greene Collection Description An account of the resource The Andrew Jackson Greene Collection consists of more than 160 diaries written by Greene who describes Watauga County's education system, including Appalachian State Teachers College, cultural and religious life, and agriculture from 1906 to 1942. <br /><br /><strong>Biographical Note.</strong> Andrew Jackson Greene (March 2, 1883-August 12, 1942) was a life-long resident of Watauga County, North Carolina and instructor in several Watauga schools including Appalachian State Teachers College (A.S.T.C). Greene worked as a farmer, public school teacher, and college professor. Greene was an enthusiastic diarist maintaining regular entries from 1906 to the day before his death. He also recorded A.S.T.C. faculty meetings from January 9, 1915 to May 3, 1940. He married Polly Warren, and they had three children, Ralph, Maxie, and Lester. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/190">AC.105: Andrew Jackson Greene Collection</a> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1906-1942 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">No Copyright - United States</a> Document A resource containing textual data. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a title="Andrew Jackson Greene Collection, 1906-1942" href="https://appstate-speccoll.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/190" target="_blank">Andrew Jackson Greene Collection, 1906-1942</a> Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1942 Extent The size or duration of the resource. 55.4MB 63 pages Language A language of the resource English Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context 105_164_1942_0622_1942_0811 Description An account of the resource This diary was recorded by Andrew Jackson Greene from June 22 through August 11, 1942. Greene’s writings are a collection of weather records and travel records and personal reflections about each day. He recorded where he walked to each day and who he visited with. He reflected on his faith, community events, family, politics, and personal matters. He also wrote often about his health and how well he was able to sleep. In closing the diary, he wrote that he hoped that when his time was up, he hoped to leave his family in a good condition Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Title A name given to the resource Diary of Andrew Jackson Greene, Volume 164 [June 22, 1942-August 11, 1942] Subject The topic of the resource Watauga County (N.C.)--Social life and customs--20th century Greene, Andrew Jackson, 1883-1942 Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">No Copyright – United States</a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Diaries Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. <a title="Andrew Jackson "Greene collection" href="https://omeka.library.appstate.edu/collections/show/39" target="_blank"> Andrew Jackson Greene collection </a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Watauga County (N.C.) Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. <a title="https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html" href="https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html" target="_blank"> https://www.geonames.org/4497707/watauga-county.html</a> Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1940s Alleghany County N.C. Barbara Ann Cole Billie Cole Bogle Cole Brushy Fork Valley Clarence Cole Claude Edminsten Clyde Cole Dorothy Greer E.F. Sherwood Ella Watkins Everett Cole Fred Blair James Greene James Miller John Keith Greene Lola Moretz Lowell Cable. Joy Greene Lura Greene Ralph Greer Reverend John Henry Morgan Sam Houston Sunny Knoll T.C. Baird Thomas Greene Washington City Watauga Hospital Wilkes County Zoe Greer