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                    <text>Nate McQueen
Military History Interview:
05 OCT
Appalachian State University, Boone NC

ME: We r in Boone North Carolina at Appalachian state university my name is Nathan
McQueen and I will be interviewing SFC bush for American military history oral history project
ME: So sgt bush where were u raised
SFC BUSH: I was rais~d in Germany, and Mississippi

ME: and how did that affect your interest in the military at all?
SFC BUSH: Well my father served 29 years in the army and I grew up a broad all over the
world in military bases so that kinda influenced me in the fact that was the kind of life style I
wanted to me a part of.

ME: And when did you choose that you wanted to join the military?
SFC BUSH : Early part of 1990, January bout January February 1990

ME: And have you been in continuously since then?
SFC BUSH: I have, 22 years of total since

ME: wow .... And which branch were u initially serving in?
SFC BUSH: National Guard complete

ME: Ok, So you have been in the National Guard the entire 22 years
SFC BUSH: Yea, I enlisted as an m-day solider traditional. And then in 1993 I went active duty
for the National Guard

ME: Can you define m-day solider?
SFC BUSH: m-day soldier is a traditional soldier; they perform duties part time for the National
Guard. T~1ey serve one weekend a month and two weekends during the summer serve part time
and that was my initial assignment and then in 1993 I had the opportunity to go active duty full
time for the guard.

ME: What made you want to pick this branch of service?

�SFC BUSH: It just happened that way ...... there was no I mean there was no, it was just what
was the most accessible at the time.
ME: alright sounds good, sou mentioned that your father was ~!ready in the military. Was that
one of the main factors for you wanting to join the military, or was it more for school?
SFC BUSH: A lot of it had to do with my father, but some of it had to do with my current
situation within the community. I wasn't headed in the so called right direction so it was
basically I needed to do something to get out of town. And in the sense but I knew the military
was something that would come in my path sooner or later and it did and I'm thankful for it now.
ME: so when did you first go to basic training?
SFC BUSH: 13 February 1990
ME: Can you describe some of your experiences while you were there?
SFC BUSH: it was pretty good. I mean it's still basically the same concept as it is today. It was
8 weeks back then. I went to ft sill Oklahoma, so it was all male, we didn't have any females
there. Strategically it was all combat arms so was no female recruits with us, it was all guys. It
was a good times. Met a lot of cool guys, still talk to one of them. As a matter of fact, but overall
it was a good experience, it gave me some motivation and direction and ... good foundation.

ME: Are there any outstanding memories you have from there or is it just all pretty much a blur?
SFC BUSH: No I remember a lot of it, 1 mean still today I can basically take you through basic
training. But uh.. probably the most memorable would be the confidence course, it was rainy
muddy and it was just a lot of fun we came in and we were just packed full of mud it took us 4-5
days to get everything clean. It was just a really really good time.
ME: Can you describe what the confidence course was like
SFC BUSH: It is an obstacle course basically it was what civilians would know as an obstacle
course. Some of it requires team effort some of its individual part, but its different obstacles you
had to maneuver. In a certain period of time, and it was just a lot of fun. Like I said the trenches
under some of the obstacles were full of mud and water and it just made for a really really good
time
ME: I had similar experiences like that from basic training and its definitely memorable.
SFC Bush: Those are the ones ...
ME: Have you ever been deployed in your military career?
SFC BUSH: I have, I have been deployed three different times.

�ME: Where to during those ... ?

SFC BUSH: I was deployed in 1990 to Desert Storm. I did most of my duty at Fort Hood
because by the time we got ramped up and were certified to go across the water things had
ended. It was basically a 100 hours war. We remained on active duty for about 7 months so that
we could get our VA benefits and finish out training at NTC and places like that. Then in 2001 , 1
mobilized and when to Bosnia Herzegovina for a peace keeping mission, and spent 7 months
there. And then in '05 I ramped up and when to Iraq in support of operation Iraqi freedom.
ME: What was your initial MOS when you enlisted?
SFC BUSH: Initially I was a 13F forward observer, basically I was the eyes on target, enemy
target to call in artillery and destroy those targets .

.ME: and have you changed MOSs or have you remained the same
SFC BUSH: I am a 13 F ultimately but right now as a recruiter I'm a 79T which is recruiting
duty
ME: What kinds of duties did you perform while overseas?

SFC BUSH: In desert stonn I was basically a pvt so it was whatever I was told to do. Worked
in the artillery there as well I mean as a forward observer world I was a pion I was nobody as far
as rank went. In 0 l I was a platoon sgt for an artillery cell that was in support of an infantry
battalion and basically our duties there was to manage 28 weapons storage sites there in country.
We keep track of the weapon·s whether or not they were moving them, when they needed to
move then for training. All that had to go t through our cell. And we would do surprised
inspections on those weapons storage sites it was probably one of the better deployments I've
ever had because of the weapons systems I got to see and track and it was pretty cool. 05 I went
back as a fire support guy, fires support NCO for the task force I was involved with. And
basically our function was to acquire High Value Targets or high value target area. And provide
artillery support for our forces on the ground
ME: Did your unit suffer any casualties while you were deployed
SFC BUSH: Yes ...... (long awkward pause)

ME: Have you been a 13F the entire time?
SFC BUSH: Well with the exception ofrecruiting duty I'm not a 13f per say now it's my
secondary MOS but once I leave recruiting and go back to the field I'm always a 13 F
ME: Have you been in the North Carolina National Guard the entire time, or. .. ?

�SFC BUSH: Negative, I stated my guard career in Mississippi and then in 2008 I moved to
North Carolina.
ME: Have you been awarded any medals or citations in your service?
SFC BUSH: A few, I cwn a ... I own 6 AAM and 5 RCOMs, overseas service ribbons, NATO
service medal. Oh my gosh .. .
ME: Can you define the first medal you said AAM?

SFC BUSH: AAM, Army Achievement Medal it's for doing stuff that's above and beyond.
Your normal duties, the RCOM is another one it's a little bit higher it's the same. Its going above
and beyond the what your are required to do, setting the standard exceeding the standard and
performing the duties above what is required of me and you get acknowledged for that and so
I've strived myself to do that in my career.
ME: You mentioned that your first deployment was mostly stateside how long were your
overseas deployments.
SFC BUSH: again I spent 7 months in Bosnia and I spent 5 months in Iraq so 12 months a year
total time overseas
ME: And what were your barracks and living conditions like overseas?
SFC BUSH: In Bosnia it was nice we lived in a base camp that had what we call .... "Huds" they
were wooden barracks, 4 men to a room, 4 men to a building and you know shower facilities
everything was there mess hall, very nice, comfortable living. 05 in Iraq started out down south
for about a month in what we call 2 man little uh .... Cans is what we called them. Basically 2
men in a little building looks like a conex it's been refurbished has air conditioning in the
window wall locker, two beds, shower facility it was ok. But Then we moved up north we
occupied a bombed out facility. Sand bags no shower facility no mess hall we basically ate "T
rats" and MREs for four months and basically lived in a shit hole
ME: And how did your morale differ between you and your troop between the two different. ..

SFC BUSH: areas?
ME: areas
SFC BUSH: Down south we were really relaxed wasn't as stressful of an environment we
weren't shot at. When we went up north and basically got into the so called fight in support of
the 2°d Marine division up there it took a toll on you, I mean you were getting shot at almost
daily you were constantly in firefights and we were losing guys and you know the stress level
was heightened and we were we were, ya know basically fighting for our lives up there

�ME: It must have been rough
ME: And then you have the weather to deal with on top of that. I understand it really hot but can
you just in some way describe the level of heat?

SFC BUSH: Its difficult you know its 112-120 something during the day in a matter of an hour
or 2 hours it drops down to 80 something degrees at night. But people think that 80 is not that
cold but when you drop 40 something degrees in an hour's time it takes a toll on your body it's a
shock so you have to be prepared for both. I mean again 80 degrees doesn't seem that cold night
but when you drop that drastically that fast in temperature and your body has been hot all day
you have to be prepared for that.
ME: I'm sure it would be a shock for your system there
ME: When you were deployed how did you keep up with your family?

SFC BUSH : The most recent deployment in OS technology has caught up with to so Skyping
and email and things like that are very accessible, in certain areas. We had one small computer
lab that eventually got established up there where we were so it was 4 computes and you kinda
basically rotated in when you could. But always back to the good ole pen and ink, You know,
paper and a pen and writing letters, care packages and things like that.
M E: So what kind oflasting relationships have you developed with people that you've been in
the military with?

SFC BUSH: I have I got some good lifelong friends. I have one in individual we have been
serving with since we both joined. He's actually in active regular army now. He is a recruiter out
in Arizona but he's basically what I would call a life friend. I could pick up the phone any day of
the week and he would be there, same for him. Kids I've put in the guard I've kept up with to see
them graduate college and move on into the real world or to out to active duty. It's been for me
to its been good for me to know that I helped them accomplished that. It's been a good
expenence
ME: What has your interaction been like with the officers in your unit? Good, bad or all the
above?

SFC BUSH: For the most part pretty good you know every now and then and I'm sure it goes
for us as well it is what you make of it, for the most part most of my leadership has been pretty
good throughout out my care rive only had maybe one or two officer that I just couldn't get
along with. Or just didn ' t fit with so to speak, for the most part most of my leadership has been
pretty good
ME: Would you say the same about your subordinates or has that been more of a challenge
dealing with them?

�SFC BUSH: I would hope that my example in leading by example I would hope that they could
say the same about me, that you know having watched SGT Bush and learned from him I was
influential or played a significant part of their lives as well and that's what I strive to do to lead
by example.
ME: As an ROTC cadet I will be a future officer here what kind of advice would you have for
me progressing through my career as an officer?

SFC BUSH: Take care of your people. I can't stress that enough it's probably the most
important. Get to know your people. Understand the way they think so u can know them and
learn how to plug them into critical tasks. Utilize their skills and assets, is probably the most
important thing as a leader, first line leader especially, Is knowing your individuals and what
they are capable of and learning how to utilize them, but definitely take care of them is the
ultimate.
ME: That's definitely good; do you have anything else you would like to add in closing?

SFC BUSH: No, it's just. ... Proud of what I've done, I Jack a little bit for retirement so I'm very
proud of my career and consider it to be pretty accomplished in my yes anyway and that's what
matters to me, but just thankful for the opportunity of serving my country.
ME: Well we definitely all appreciate it too thank you for your time, this concludes the
interview.

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